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Whistler’s Answers: October 17, 1986Whistler’s Answers: October 17, 1986

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In the 1980s the Whistler Question began posing a question to three to six people and publishing their responses under “Whistler’s Answers” (not to be confused with the Whistler Answer).  Each week, we’ll be sharing one question and the answers given back in 1986.  Please note, all names/answers/occupations/neighbourhoods represent information given to the Question at the time of publishing and do not necessarily reflect the person today.

Some context for this week’s question: A general election was called for British Columbia on October 22, 1986. Just a few months before, the Socred party had chosen Bill Vander Zalm as their new leader at a convention in Whistler following the resignation of Bill Bennett. In this election, the Socreds won their fourth (and final) consecutive majority government despite winning less than 50% of the popular vote.

Question: What do you think are the issues in this provincial election?

Peter Thomson – Construction Worker – White Gold

Gambling is an issue, especially to Whistler residents. And the labour movement. The Socreds are union busting a bit, and I think that’s good, though a lot of people think it’s bad. I like the looks of the Socreds better, because they want to promote big business. If the economy is doing good, everybody will make money. Whistler people especially should be Socreds. Gambling has negative aspects. You will get the kind of people who come for that.

Diane Pingle – Legal Stenographer – Vancouver

I think they could improve on education. They talk about people doing poorly in university, but they haven’t had a chance because they haven’t been taught well in the schools. And those are the people who will be making the decisions in the future. Meanwhile, they’ve been pumping money into Expo. We’re becoming non-competitive in the resource industries. Other countries all over the world can now produce the natural resources for less. Whoever is elected has to step in and resolve the lumber dispute as soon as possible.

Gary Crook – Supervisor, Lumber – Emerald Estates

I guess the employment situation is probably the most important thing. There are some major problems with lumber tariffs, and we need reforestation. We need diversification i our industry and business. Tourism is one field, but there are lots of others. They should promote foreign investment and create tax breaks so the locals will invest, too. And if old Bill can guarantee snow for the first of November, he’ll get my vote.

Mountain Washrooms: BlackcombMountain Washrooms: Blackcomb

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Though Whistler Mountain opened for skiing in January 1966 with no Roundhouse and few on-mountain amenities, when Blackcomb Mountain began its operations in December 1980 the Rendezvous Lodge and the daylodge at Base II were both already up and running. Over the years, as Blackcomb gained more customers, these facilities were added onto and more were added, including the Glacier Creek Lodge in 1993.

In 1980, both the Rendezvous and the daylodge offered food services run by the Parsons family and were fulling equipped with running water and washroom facilities. According to Hugh Smythe, president of Blackcomb Ski Enterprises, his experiences with washrooms at Whistler Mountain led him to believe that these facilities were not going to be enough. He recalled discussions with the architects where he tried to convince them to add more washrooms to the plans but both the design of the buildings and the budget prevented adding more facilities. As Blackcomb skier visits increased, more washrooms were added to the Rendezvous through the addition of construction washroom trailers that were bolted to the bottom floor. When the building was expanded and Christine’s Restaurant was added, the bottom floor was also expanded and more washrooms were included in the building, replacing the trailers.

Blackcomb Mountain didn’t just advertise its women’s washrooms, it also took promotional photos of the men’s room. Blackcomb Mountain Collection, Randy Lincks

Blackcomb Mountain decided to take no chances when it came to planning the washroom facilities for the Glacier Creek Lodge, though the building itself did come close to looking entirely different than it does today. Smythe remembers that the team at Blackcomb, then owned by Intrawest Resort Holdings Inc., originally asked the architects for a shed roof design, similar to the Bugaboo Lodge and the daylodge at Sunshine Village. Situated at the bottom of the Jersey Cream Express and the Glacier Express, the 1,000 seat restaurant was designed to look up the lift lines and capture as much sunlight as possible and featured industrial elements such as metal beams. As they neared the construction window, however, Blackcomb asked for an architectural rendering that they could put on display. According to Smythe, despite having seen all of the plans and being involved in the process, one look at the rendering was enough to realize that the design was all wrong.

Glacier Creek Lodge on Blackcomb Mountain. Insight Photography Collection

Blackcomb engaged new architects, a husband and wife team called Lutz & Associates, and got to work on a new design. Smythe recalled one presentation at which the architects had something under a sheet in the middle of the table. Throughout the presentation, Smythe kept getting distracted by the mysterious object until finally they pulled the sheet off to reveal a model of Glacier Creek Lodge. Like with the architectural rendering, one look was enough for Smythe to say, “That’s what we need.” Metal beams were switched for large log posts and there was even money in the budget to commission root chandeliers from Eric Skragg.

By October 1993, the 30,000 sq ft Glacier Creek Lodge was nearing completion. It included 1,000 seats spread out over two levels, an additional 600 seat patio, and ten food court stations. According to the Whistler Question, the building also included “one of the largest washrooms in North America, complete with 38 stalls.” The size of the washrooms was even used in the marketing for the new facility. In November 1993, the Question featured an image captured by photojournalist Bonny Makarewicz showing a line of toilets before the partitions were installed and captioned “OK! Who left the seat up? Toilets in the ladies room sit awaiting stalls in the new Glacier Creek restaurant, Tuesday. The women’s can will feature 38 toilets.” A similar image and caption was also used in a ski magazine.

A line of stalls in the Glacier Creek Lodge washroom. Blackcomb Mountain Collection, Randy Lincks

Whistler Mountain renovated Pika’s restaurant that same season, doubling the size and increasing the women’s washrooms from nine to 26 stalls. By the 1990s, both mountains had come a long way from the amenities and outhouses offered to early skiers on Whistler Mountain.

Whistler’s Answers: October 9, 1986Whistler’s Answers: October 9, 1986

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In the 1980s the Whistler Question began posing a question to three to six people and publishing their responses under “Whistler’s Answers” (not to be confused with the Whistler Answer).  Each week, we’ll be sharing one question and the answers given back in 1986.  Please note, all names/answers/occupations/neighbourhoods represent information given to the Question at the time of publishing and do not necessarily reflect the person today.

Some context for this week’s question: Vancouver hosted the 1986 World Exposition on Transportation and Communication, usually referred to as Expo ’86, from May to October 1986. With over 40 nations participating, it was expected that Expo 86 would increase international awareness of Vancouver and the surrounding areas and many hoped that tourism would increase as a result. Find out more about Whistler’s contribution to Expo 86 here.

Question: Do you think Expo has been worth it?

John Noldner – Municipal Labourer – Parkhurst

Yes, I do. It has gotten people’s minds off the problems of BC, for one thing. And a good part of North America is more aware of what BC has to offer, tourism-wise. I’m sure that in the long run we will reap much more than has been spent on Expo. I think it’s laying the foundation for tourism and investment. The money is all coming from the lotteries, anyhow.

Sandy Belczyk – Bartender – Emerald Estates

Yes, I do. It’s been especially a bonus for the people in Vancouver, and I think it has even helped up here. Many of people don’t think so, but it brought a lot of people up in September. Where I work, it kept the place busy. Through the summer it was people from all over, now it’s more people from southwest BC because it’s past the part of the year when people make long trips.

El Gordon – Collector – Alpine Meadows

No. For what it amounts to, it was money that could have been better spent. Of course, they will argue that what it brought in in tourism will make up for any deficit. But I think BC is already a bit of a gold mine. They could have spent a lot less and still promoted it. I found with my three-day pass, I went the first time and that was basically enough.

Mountain Washrooms: WhistlerMountain Washrooms: Whistler

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When Whistler Mountain opened for skiing in the winter of 1965/66, it wasn’t known for its on-mountain amenities. Even after the Roundhouse was built in the summer of 1966, the only facilities on the top of the mountain were nearby outhouses.

The maintenance of these outhouses fell under the purview of Whistler Mountain’s paid ski patrol. John Hetherington, who joined the patrol in the 1967/68 season, remembered shoveling out and cleaning the outhouses as an “ugly job.” According to fellow patroller Hugh Smythe, Hugh gained quite a lot of experience cleaning and restocking the facilities in his first year on the patrol, often using rescue equipment such as ice axes. He described these duties as “the glamour of being a ski patroller.”

The Roundhouse before the balcony and the lower level were enclosed. Whistler Mountain Ski Corporation Collection

One of the first major renovations of the Roundhouse involved digging out and enclosing a lower floor which would include indoor washrooms. According to Garibaldi’s Whistler News, this was done in part due to skier demands. Doing so presented a couple of problems as at the time, the Roundhouse did not have water and some high points of rock beneath the Roundhouse made the space more a crawlspace than another level.

The first problem was solved by hiring a professional water dowser from Vancouver Island. He arrived with a willow stick and was able to find running water near enough to the Roundhouse that the lift company was able to install a pump and have enough water for the newly installed kitchen and for washrooms. The second problem involved removing some of the rock that the Roundhouse was built on.

Smythe had a blasting ticket because of his patrol work doing avalanche control but, as he recalled, “no experience blasting rock.” He drilled some holes and covered the area in sheets of plywood, then added explosives. Luckily, only one piece of rock went through the main floor of the Roundhouse, though others were embedded in the ceiling. Once the debris was cleared out, washrooms and additional seating were added to the space.

A new building that included additional washrooms under construction in front of the Roundhouse. Whistler Question Collection, 1979

While the addition of indoor washrooms was a big step for Whistler Mountain, the lift company continued to experience washroom woes. The Roundhouse now had four stalls in the women’s washroom, two stalls and two urinals in the men’s washroom, and the pre-existing outhouses. The facilities, however, were still not sufficient for the number of skiers on the mountain on a busy day and Smythe recalled that the lineups for the women’s washroom would be “horrendous.” At one point, season pass holders signed a petition for additional women’s washroom facilities, as the women had gotten tired of waiting in the line and the rest of their group had gotten tired of waiting for them, sometimes for over half an hour. Mirrors were moved from the washroom to the hallway to discourage any lingering, clips were installed to keep the sleeves of one-piece ski suits off the ground, and there were even staff stationed at the washrooms with stopwatches. None of these measures were particularly effective and Smythe remembered some skiers, tired of waiting in line, decided to “just storm the men’s.”

The Roundhouse after renovations. Whistler Question Collection, 1980

In 1979, a new building was installed beside the Roundhouse that included extra washrooms, a new ski school office, a ski repair shop, and a sewer plant. When the Roundhouse Lodge was completely rebuilt in 1998, the new building boasted much larger washroom facilities than the original structure. His experiences with both the outhouses and the Roundhouse facilities left a lasting impression on Hugh Smythe that would inform future developments in his career.