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Mountain Washrooms: WhistlerMountain Washrooms: Whistler

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When Whistler Mountain opened for skiing in the winter of 1965/66, it wasn’t known for its on-mountain amenities. Even after the Roundhouse was built in the summer of 1966, the only facilities on the top of the mountain were nearby outhouses.

The maintenance of these outhouses fell under the purview of Whistler Mountain’s paid ski patrol. John Hetherington, who joined the patrol in the 1967/68 season, remembered shoveling out and cleaning the outhouses as an “ugly job.” According to fellow patroller Hugh Smythe, Hugh gained quite a lot of experience cleaning and restocking the facilities in his first year on the patrol, often using rescue equipment such as ice axes. He described these duties as “the glamour of being a ski patroller.”

The Roundhouse before the balcony and the lower level were enclosed. Whistler Mountain Ski Corporation Collection

One of the first major renovations of the Roundhouse involved digging out and enclosing a lower floor which would include indoor washrooms. According to Garibaldi’s Whistler News, this was done in part due to skier demands. Doing so presented a couple of problems as at the time, the Roundhouse did not have water and some high points of rock beneath the Roundhouse made the space more a crawlspace than another level.

The first problem was solved by hiring a professional water dowser from Vancouver Island. He arrived with a willow stick and was able to find running water near enough to the Roundhouse that the lift company was able to install a pump and have enough water for the newly installed kitchen and for washrooms. The second problem involved removing some of the rock that the Roundhouse was built on.

Smythe had a blasting ticket because of his patrol work doing avalanche control but, as he recalled, “no experience blasting rock.” He drilled some holes and covered the area in sheets of plywood, then added explosives. Luckily, only one piece of rock went through the main floor of the Roundhouse, though others were embedded in the ceiling. Once the debris was cleared out, washrooms and additional seating were added to the space.

A new building that included additional washrooms under construction in front of the Roundhouse. Whistler Question Collection, 1979

While the addition of indoor washrooms was a big step for Whistler Mountain, the lift company continued to experience washroom woes. The Roundhouse now had four stalls in the women’s washroom, two stalls and two urinals in the men’s washroom, and the pre-existing outhouses. The facilities, however, were still not sufficient for the number of skiers on the mountain on a busy day and Smythe recalled that the lineups for the women’s washroom would be “horrendous.” At one point, season pass holders signed a petition for additional women’s washroom facilities, as the women had gotten tired of waiting in the line and the rest of their group had gotten tired of waiting for them, sometimes for over half an hour. Mirrors were moved from the washroom to the hallway to discourage any lingering, clips were installed to keep the sleeves of one-piece ski suits off the ground, and there were even staff stationed at the washrooms with stopwatches. None of these measures were particularly effective and Smythe remembered some skiers, tired of waiting in line, decided to “just storm the men’s.”

The Roundhouse after renovations. Whistler Question Collection, 1980

In 1979, a new building was installed beside the Roundhouse that included extra washrooms, a new ski school office, a ski repair shop, and a sewer plant. When the Roundhouse Lodge was completely rebuilt in 1998, the new building boasted much larger washroom facilities than the original structure. His experiences with both the outhouses and the Roundhouse facilities left a lasting impression on Hugh Smythe that would inform future developments in his career.

Whistler’s Answers: October 2, 1986Whistler’s Answers: October 2, 1986

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In the 1980s the Whistler Question began posing a question to three to six people and publishing their responses under “Whistler’s Answers” (not to be confused with the Whistler Answer).  Each week, we’ll be sharing one question and the answers given back in 1986.  Please note, all names/answers/occupations/neighbourhoods represent information given to the Question at the time of publishing and do not necessarily reflect the person today.

Some context for this week’s question: Smoking bans were not introduced in some municipalities in BC until the late 1980s and 1990s and provincially in the early 2000s. Some restaurants, however, began introducing non-smoking sections before any bans were put in effect. In June 1985, council considered a no-smoking bylaw after a letter from the Coast-Garibaldi Health Unit suggested a bylaw to increase the number of smoke-free areas in the community. The matter was then passed on to the Chamber of Commerce and the Whistler Resort Association for comment and members of the community were consulted. Some members of council supported the idea, but not everyone in Whistler was on board.

Question: What do you think of mandatory non-smoking sections?

Janet Mattson – Owner/Manager

I oppose a mandatory bylaw. It puts the restaurant owner on the spot, knocking off a third of your tables. You have to have a hostess at the door, and unless you have big, ugly signs on the wall you can’t enforce it. I’ve never had any problems with the voluntary system. If a person requests a non-smoking area, you seat them in an area where no one is smoking. We shouldn’t be affected though, because your liquor licence determines whether you’re a bar or restaurant.

Joel Thibault – Owner/Manager

I think it’s going to be part of the routine. People expect it, and the more we realize that, the easier it will be. It’s easier for us because we have a large restaurant, but for small places it will be hard. It does give everybody the privilege of their choice, and the more we can accommodate the public, the better.

Lawrence Black – Owner/Manager

I’m a non smoker and we’ve always kept a no smoking area, but it’s hard to enforce. When you run out of smoking tables and people light up in the no smoking section, what are you supposed to do? Phone the police to avoid being fined? It’s hard to keep a designated section. It needs to be flexible. It will be expensive for the municipality to enforce, and a waste of time. I think it’s a bad move.

Binty was hereBinty was here

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Operating from 1965 to 1992, the first gondola installed on Whistler Mountain was a hard working lift that brought skiers (and later snowboarders) from the valley base at today’s Creekside to the bottom of the Red Chair. Gondola cars from this lift can still be found today throughout the valley and beyond, including in the Whistler Museum. They often show signs of their years of use, from dents to scratches to added stickers. If you look closely at some of the gondola cars, you might even find a name or two scratched into the surface. One name that could be found on many of the cars over the years was Binty, also known as Vincent Massey.

The original Whistler Mountain gondola. Whistler Mountain Ski Corporation Collection

The Massey family began visiting in the early 1960s when Geoffrey Massey, the well known architect, became involved in the Garibaldi Olympic Development Association. He and his wife Ruth brought their four children, including Binty, up to ski regularly. Looking back at his childhood visits to Whistler Mountain, Binty recalled a low of snow, slow lifts, and long line ups. According to him, “It was such a cold ride up, it would take about 40 or 50 minutes to get up out of the valley to the Roundhouse because the lifts were so slow.” By the time they reached the Roundhouse, they would be so cold that they would go straight inside to warm up. Despite this, to Binty, Whistler was “a big deal, it was a big mountain.”

According to Hugh Smythe, who began working for Whistler Mountain soon after it opened in 1966, Binty and his “mischievous look” became well known to lift company employees, especially after his name started appearing on more and more gondola cars. As Hugh saw it, “his goal was to carve his name in the plastic of the gondola cars in every car.” Unfortunately, this made lift company president Franz Wilhelmsen “apoplectic” and one of Hugh’s assigned tasks was to try and catch Binty in the act.

Binty Massey in his Whistler pottery studio. Whistler Question Collection, 1991

Binty, who grew up in Horseshoe Bay, moved to Whistler full-time after finishing high school. Unfortunately for him, the winter of 1976/77 is best remembered by those who there as the year that Whistler Mountain closed for skiing for three weeks in January. Warm rain after the holidays worsened already marginal conditions and then the weather got cold and dry, which made for great ice skating but no skiing. After working construction in Whistler for a year, Binty decided to go to art school.

A few decades late, after Binty and his wife Cheryl and moved back to Whistler and started a family, his labeling of the gondola cars appeared again in what might seem like an unexpected setting: a fundraising event of the Myrtle Philip Community School (MPCS) Parent Advisory Council (PAC).

Hugh Smythe reenacts his days working for the lift company as a lineup of parents look on. Whistler Question Collection, 1992

The Amuse Cruises of the 1990s were held to raise money for the MPSC, which opened in its Lorimer Road location in September 1992. They were held at the Fairmont Chateau and featured skits put together by the parents from different classes. One such skit at the event held in November 1992 featured a recently-decommissioned gondola car and Hugh Smythe reenacting some of the tasks that came up during his early days working for Whistler Mountain, including attempts to stop Binty from adding his name to the lift.

While the gondola car included in the skit made it a bit more obvious (“Binty was here” was painted on in large letters), it’s likely that if any attendees had examined it closely, they might have found the familiar name scratched into a window at least twenty years before.

Whistler’s Answers: September 25, 1986Whistler’s Answers: September 25, 1986

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In the 1980s the Whistler Question began posing a question to three to six people and publishing their responses under “Whistler’s Answers” (not to be confused with the Whistler Answer).  Each week, we’ll be sharing one question and the answers given back in 1986.  Please note, all names/answers/occupations/neighbourhoods represent information given to the Question at the time of publishing and do not necessarily reflect the person today.

Some context for this week’s question: This one seems pretty self explanatory, so we think we’ll leave it there.

Question: Do you think Whistler has enough culture?

Roberta Stewart – Owner/Manager – Emerald Estates

It’s beautiful on the physical side, but it doesn’t have any culture. I think it’s something that hasn’t happened here much because it takes a very dedicated person to organize something like that. Like this man who’s bringing improvisational theatre to the Rainbow. It needs a lot of support, people going to it for one thing. Maybe with an increase in population we’ll see more of it. Whistler offers so much on the physical side. It’s not that people aren’t interested.

Mundigier Ferdinand – Retired – Victoria

It has a little bit. It’s beautiful, I think it has the potential to be like the resorts in Bavaria and Austria, but it doesn’t reach it. It’s too commercialized, one building on top of another, no space to breathe, like Waikiki. This square is fantastic, but needs something in the middle. The outdoor cafes are fantastic. But the buildings are too square and plain, like boxes. It doesn’t feel homey. If you go to places in Europe, you don’t forget them. But the surroundings here are really beautiful.

Kim Hauner – Businessman – Vancouver

No, it doesn’t have enough culture. But I don’t think people want culture here. So the answer is, yes, it has enough culture. You don’t come to Whistler for cultural stimulation, you come here for nature and to socialize, to relax. A permanent cultural thing, like an art gallery, wouldn’t work. But you could certainly bring up more theatre and events. A movie festival or Shakespeare festival would probably work.